[193599]

the archive is great on all their boats, but my point was the underwater profile which is distinctive!!! will confirm E 29!!

 

[Lady Blue]

Hey SEABIRD, you seem to know quite a bit on boats especially E29's. Have you got any pics of the interior for us? From what i can see, Beisters and E29's are similar in shape and style so some interior tips of layout could e useful
Many thanks
Fritz

 

[mitiempo]

The link I posted above shows both underwater profile and enough pictures to show the layout very well.

 

[Lady Blue]

Many thanks for that Mitiempo. Does tend to show what i am after.

 

[Thestar]

Hi Dave,
The Elizabethan 29's are clearly defined by a lowercase letter e moulded in to the hull at the bow on both port and starboard sides just before the start of the coping line as per pictures enclosed.
Many thanks for the invite I would indeed like to come along and see the boat.
I shall be back on land middle of September for a week visiting my sister in Berkshire before departing to the Mediterranean for the winter warmer sailing.
My mobile number is 07513072453 email antares@gmailDOTcom substitute the DOT to stop spammers.
Kindest Regards
Will

 

[Thestar]

Sorry placed the pictures in my profile here on Sailnet see my albums.
Kindest Regards
Will

 

[El malabarista]

e29

Wow thanks to all for a informative set of links and info.
Looking at the pictures i am convinced that she was taken from an e29 as the hull shape is identical. There is no e29 on the moulding as we have the moulds themselves and i have looked.
We dont quite know what to do with the moulds. Maybe when she is finished and looking like the one in the photos someone will want to build one themselves
Anyway thanks a lot and i am trying to get to Poole this weekend to have a look for myself.
Thanks again i no longer feel as though i am stumbling in the dark.

 

[mitiempo]

Post some pictures when you can.

 

[ch61rog71@TW]

cyano

hello el malabarista, I read your blog with great interest as I am doing what you are about to do ,but I must admit a stupid error,The e29 I have is a yawl and the saloon was like the black hole ,the deck covered in curling tek dek and all together a mess .What I should have done, of course,was take Don Casey,s wise advice, keep sailing while you can ,but no being a hard head I ripped everything out and now I have to finish before I can get back on the briny ,The point I am getting to is that being just down the road from you in southborough I would very much like to see the yacht , here,s hoping

 

[El malabarista]

Hi there
You most certainly can come take a look at the project i would be delighted. She is in Essex at the moment but hopefully work starts in earnest next month. We are waiting to exchange on a house in Eridge so we will be practically neighbours. It is very interesting to hear of your problem with Tekdek as we were considering it.
We'd love to come and take a look. Do you think it was poor prep, adhesive or the product itself?
Regards
David

 

[ch61rog71@TW]

cyano

hello Dave and lady wife,I thought I would pop down to Eridge and find you and Si Amor but no luck! lovely area ,very spread out though. I am off to faversham on sunday to work on my lizzie 29 if you want any measurements from the boom or mast, post it.Give me a clue where to find you ,I still want to see the boat.regards ,Roger

 

[wkeith01]

Hi, I may be too late to post a reply.

The Elizabethon 29 is an excellent yacht good strong and hard, the only drawback as far as I can tell is the internal led keel. If it was not bedded in properly it could force it's way out through the bottom of the boat...we had that happen once and was caused by extremly bad weather. They were built by Peter Webster Ltd at Ropewalk Boatyard Lymington Hants. Ropwalk Boatyard is now part of Lymington Yacht Haven. I worked for Peter Webster in the 60s and early 70s as an apprentice shipwright.

 

[mitiempo]

You could be 2 years too late.

The problem you describe is not unique to the Elizabethan - many boats have external keels and if built properly with good floors or grid internally there are few problems.

 

[wkeith01]

You could be 2 years too late.
then pour re
The problem you describe is not unique to the Elizabethan - many boats have external keels and if built properly with good floors or grid internally there are few problems.

Hi, As a former employee of Peter Websters and somebody who worked on every E29 built from 1966 to 1971. I can only comment on that boat. The ballest keel was internal. it was made of lead and lowered in prior to the deck being fitted. Once the keel was put in, it was wedged in place with wood packers around the top to hold it cental, the fibreglassers (or gouers as we called them) would then pour resin around between the lead and hull. The problem came when you had a gouer (spelling) that did not care. I had to help repair an E29 at Poole that had it's ballest keel come adrift, the shipwright I was working with cut a couple of holes approx 12" square each side of the hull at keel level and there was no resin around the keel at any point so allowing it to move in heavy weather. I can only talk from 'MY' experiance. Just a quick mention, the lead was fibreglassed over and the water tank fabricated above it with the floors and cabin sole above that.

The E29 was the only yacht Websters built with an internal ballest keel and everbody commented on the weak spot where the two halves of the hull were joined and could not understand why we could not change the mould to accomdate an external Steel keel as all the other Elizabethans had. The E35 may also have had an internal keel but these were never built at Ropewalk Boatyard by Peter Websters but built under licence by an independent company.

Also a note of interest is, people have spoke of the E30 but no mention of the E 9mtr which was the racing version with a trim tab on the keel, Peter Webster sailed one of these himself.

I have sailed in quite a few E29s and E31s and 1 or 2 E23s as I loved sailing, when Peter Webster took all the new yachts out for compass swing I was always asked to join them as crew so Peter Webster could have a sail afterwards. I have also raced against E29 and they were always very fast and seaworthy, in my mind the E29 and E31 (not the Ketch) were the best two yachts we built.

Also the best Elizabethans were the early ones built whilst Mac McEntyre (spelling) was forman, he left when Tony Winter started as manager, things went downhill from there on.

 

[wkeith01]

Hi Dave,
The Elizabethan 29's are clearly defined by a lowercase letter e moulded in to the hull at the bow on both port and starboard sides just before the start of the coping line as per pictures enclosed.
Many thanks for the invite I would indeed like to come along and see the boat.
I shall be back on land middle of September for a week visiting my sister in Berkshire before departing to the Mediterranean for the winter warmer sailing.
My mobile number is 07513072453 email antares@gmailDOTcom substitute the DOT to stop spammers.
Kindest Regards
Will

Hi, Just a thought. You may like to know why Peter Webster called his yachts Elizabethans? They were named after his daughter Elizabeth. He had a son as well named Charles but I think he died fairly young.

 

[maxcon]

Re: elizabethan

Give me your details and I will send you some photos of mine.
Cheers.
Barry.

 

[Denismartinsail]

Hello all
After lurking for a few days i have decided to go for it.
My wife and i are building what we believe to be an Elizabethan 29. She was left forgotten in the corner of a yard having never been completed.
Hull and deck are complete however the coachroof needs a lot of work and she needs a complete fitout.
We are fairly experienced crew but this will be our first foray into ownership.
Our intention is to first build her and then spend a few years getting to know her culminating in a slow cruise to nicaragua where we have a second home.
We have rented a large barn in which to work situated across the road from our house.
Any tips/ advice gratefully received
Dave and Ros

I own this Ela I wish to replace seal on tiler if there is one in cockpit floor any problems please

 

[Denismartinsail]

Hi, As a former employee of Peter Websters and somebody who worked on every E29 built from 1966 to 1971. I can only comment on that boat. The ballest keel was internal. it was made of lead and lowered in prior to the deck being fitted. Once the keel was put in, it was wedged in place with wood packers around the top to hold it cental, the fibreglassers (or gouers as we called them) would then pour resin around between the lead and hull. The problem came when you had a gouer (spelling) that did not care. I had to help repair an E29 at Poole that had it's ballest keel come adrift, the shipwright I was working with cut a couple of holes approx 12" square each side of the hull at keel level and there was no resin around the keel at any point so allowing it to move in heavy weather. I can only talk from 'MY' experiance. Just a quick mention, the lead was fibreglassed over and the water tank fabricated above it with the floors and cabin sole above that.

The E29 was the only yacht Websters built with an internal ballest keel and everbody commented on the weak spot where the two halves of the hull were joined and could not understand why we could not change the mould to accomdate an external Steel keel as all the other Elizabethans had. The E35 may also have had an internal keel but these were never built at Ropewalk Boatyard by Peter Websters but built under licence by an independent company.

Also a note of interest is, people have spoke of the E30 but no mention of the E 9mtr which was the racing version with a trim tab on the keel, Peter Webster sailed one of these himself.

I have sailed in quite a few E29s and E31s and 1 or 2 E23s as I loved sailing, when Peter Webster took all the new yachts out for compass swing I was always asked to join them as crew so Peter Webster could have a sail afterwards. I have also raced against E29 and they were always very fast and seaworthy, in my mind the E29 and E31 (not the Ketch) were the best two yachts we built.

Also the best Elizabethans were the early ones built whilst Mac McEntyre (spelling) was forman, he left when Tony Winter started as manager, things went downhill from there on.

Are there any seals were the rudder comes through the cock pit floor,when not sailing no water comes in through shaft,but does when keeled over